Friday, 11 December 2009

  • Gold: All About the Market and a Possible Gold Top

    Our friend fxhusar@xanga posts about foreign exchange issues on his blog and website, fxmadness.com.


    One of the markets which receives constant attention is gold. Along with oil it is a market normally reported as opposite to the dollar. By that I mean it is blamed for USD weakness, or given as a reason behind any gains the green buck might show. Especially over last few months, virtually nobody in the media looks at or discusses fundamentals of gold. It is always covered in relation to movements of dollar, as if there was nothing else moving the market.

    On top of that, the XAU-USD relationship has taken on the chicken and egg dilemma — it's impossible to tell which market is the leader and which is the follower. It's not any different from how oil-dollar issues are treated by the media. (XAU is the currency code for one troy ounce of gold.)

    I don’t trade commodities very often, and my blog covers even fewer of these trades. A couple of months ago I closed a longer term gold-silver trade with good results. Perhaps the time is right to consider another trade in this commodity. Unlike the previous occasion, when bases for entering the market were in a favorable gold-silver ratio, this time around it is longer term and nothing else. And no, I’m not taking any XAU-USD relationship into account, other than the simple fact that the metal is priced in dollars.

    In early October gold completed a very large consolidation pattern, which started in February 2008. Weekly charts are used for analysis, hence the extended time scale. Finally, the market closed the formation by breaking above 1030 level. From there the market proceeded higher without much hesitation. Last week price almost reached 1230 level before reversing sharply, closing the period at about 1160, a sizable correction on smaller time frames. Combined with the all-time price high, this behavior has possibility of creating a blow out top.


    These type of patterns are not often found on weekly charts. Early in the year we had great examples of blow out tops/bottoms in British Pound crosses. All of them brought good trades. I think current situation in gold also has good potential. After making a series of new highs, price created shooting star candlestick formation, a high probability pattern if considered over a large time frame and the extended nature of the trend, as well as new historical highs and recent acceleration of price appreciation, as if caused by panic-driven buying. In this type of environment, chances for reversal—or at least large correction—are increased.


    Normally sell order would be placed just under the low of the last candle or about 1145. However, I have one concern regarding this formation. The last candle, while large, about $80 weekly range, could be a little bigger. I’d be more comfortable if the volatility was even higher, with $110–$130 range, closer to historical extremes. Since it isn’t, I’m adjusting entry to 1134, which is under the low of previous candle. That one was of a spiky nature and should prove important. Breaking it would be very encouraging and one could expect the price to fall under 1000, perhaps as low as 950-960 in short order.

    There is never a guarantee the market will do what we expect, so a good stop is just above the high of latest candle, or the shooting star. Should the price continue higher, sell orders will be moved up, trailing lows of the most recent weekly candles. That is if the parabolic run goes on. The set up described here is dependent on this type of price behavior, because it has tendencies for fast and furious corrections, at least in early stages. It is possible that market could settle into some kind consolidation pattern, in which case strategy will be revised. For now, though, good size pull back is very possible.

    Do you follow gold's movements in the market? Are people wrong to spend so much time comparing it to the dollar?

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Comments (14)

  • MOJOJONO_X2@xanga

    Yeaaa I follow, have a bit of money in gold stocks - bought them when gold was at around 900 area and added a bit more recently.

    Anyways, the story goes that USD weakness drives gold as the gold on markets is priced in USD.  As USD weakens the gold of price increases because of that.  However, apparently, the price of gold in other currencies has not risen as much.  Included in the price are people looking for some sort of inflation hedge and safety from instability.  The background story to the USD weakness is partly the economic downturn - which supposedly has been turning around lately - and the threat of eventual inflation due to the massive debt and money supply increases that may (depending on whom you listen to) significantly weaken the USD.

    Around this time there is also the so called "Gold seasonality" - usually around this time gold gets sold off? (by central banks [CB]).

    The story of gold's rise continues that some CBs - ie china, india, sri lanka, russia? are attempting to purchase even more tonnage of gold from the IMF as a way to diversify their currency reserves from USD.  They would probably want to get in at lower prices though - I'd sense that they would want to wait for something closer to 1Kish.


    There was some recent news article quoting some government/CB guy from S. Korea trying to talk down gold giving the the old argument that it has no significant utility compared to something like oil and that the price is imaginary.  But then so many other things have "imaginary" prices, so moot point.  Psh, probably trying to influence price so they can buy even more.
    Based on the technicals, where does the writer think the floor is on this sell off?  Maybe take a look at how gold has behaved with USD overlayed on the chart.
  • MissPixieGlitter@xanga

    was the title misspelled earlier as "god?" lol.

  • arcadianprincess@xanga

    Gold and USD did the same thing back in the 80's. Gold skyrocketed and USD plummeted. These two are inversely correlated, but that correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation. It doesn't truly mean that one is causing the other to move. As for whether or not Gold itself will keep moving up, the MACD histogram looks strong, but who knows? It may try to correct itself after the rally it's been having.

  • FXhusar@xanga

    @MOJOJONO_X2@xanga -  My intended target for the trade is in the post - under $1000, maybe as low as $960. Speaking of technicals, parabolic price run up, like we just have, suggest price correction, not reversal. Big difference. In order for for the major trend reversal to beconfirmed, price has to drop under last low, which for weekly charts is about $700. Tough proposition. I'm looking for much smaller target, IF it happens, pocket profits and review situations. I don't try to have an opinion about a market at all times, or always trade it. I rather wait for high probability set up, try to expoit it (doesn't always work) and then wait some more.
    For right now, major up trend is not broken yet, or at least is not confirmed.

  • FXhusar@xanga

    @arcadianprincess@xanga - You are very right about correlation issue. Unless one can prove that one market is LEADING the other, in a way that is discernable, paying attention to it is a waste of time. It creates fine headlines, but doesn't make money. How come one day dollar is up because gold is down, and next day gold is up because dollar dropped? Chicken and egg scenario and complete nonsense.ALL markets are correlated in smaller or larger degree, but it doesn't mean that this relation alone can make anybody money over long haul.

  • MOJOJONO_X2@xanga

    @MissPixieGlitter@xanga - 

    A freudian slip? $$$ is like god for many.

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  • MC_Shann@xanga

    I work for a company that makes gold chloride for another company. I had $2,000,000 dollars of the stuff in my hands the other day (no joke! My fingers touched every dollar of it!)! Gold fever does indeed exist!

  • FXhusar@xanga

    @MOJOJONO_X2@xanga - Well, luck could be a function when it comes to one, or few trades. Once you've been trading for a living for some time and placed hundreds and/or thousands of trades, luck becomes secondary. I trade currencies full time, markets like gold and other commodities are not of primary interest to me, with maybe 2-3 trades per year in any one of these markets. This happens to be second gold trade in 2009. You can take a look at the first one here http://fxmadness.com/2009/09/26/general/long-term-gold-silver-chart/

  • FXhusar@xanga

    @MC_Shann@xanga - Isn't it true? I collect ancient coins, and the gold coins from the era have similar effect on me. Very special feeling when you hold a coin with an image of Alexander the Great, or say, Nero, struck during their lifetime. One time I had a chance to handle a freshly found hord of gold Roman coins. I'd like to do it again.

  • MOJOJONO_X2@xanga

    @FXhusar@xanga - 


    True, it's more about skill than luck.
    Wow, nice trade.  I read a tidbit on investopedia about playing the gold/silver ratio.  Very interesting.
    Looking at the http://fxmadness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/long-term-silver-ra.jpg graph - it looks like the flavour of the... centuries was silver!!! until the 1900's... when gold took over.  I wonder why that change happened.
  • FXhusar@xanga

    @MOJOJONO_X2@xanga - Silver used to be the real storage of wealth and economies were more on silver standard. Untill mid 1800's or so, gold was too rare. Most people wouldn't have access to gold. Discoveries in California, Australia, South Africa, Alaska etc, changed that and gold became the standard. Now everybody could get their hands on gold, it was common in circulation as coinage, even fairly low denominations. At some point even $1 coins were made of gold and silver was pushed into secondary role.

  • Magniloquentia@xanga

    No way. Gold has much higher to go still. It will go beyond $2000/oz. guaranteed. I don't see it going beyond $2,500 but I honestly cannot make that prediction with much confidence. Everyone knows that the USD is funny money. Only because of it's complex and entrenched position as a reserve currency has it not gone the way of Zimbabwe. The problem with it being a reserve currency, and the USA being the traditional hive that supports all of the world's merchantilism, is that other countries must inflate their currencies too our be without buyers.


    Most people have no idea how deep the debt rabbit hole goes, and this is for all G20 nations practically. Fiat money is exactly that, and people are getting out. Just wait until the Federal Reserve is audited. The fallout is going to be more gruesome than anyone ever imagined.


    I digress. I'll let you buy gold. I'm sticking to silver.

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